imm_pro
06-12 08:29 PM
A hearing today illustrates why tech groups are blocked on this issue
June 12, 2008 (Computerworld) WASHINGTON -- When U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) led a U.S. House hearing today on bills that would make it easier for highly educated foreign tech workers to stay in the U.S., she had almost everything she needed to make her case. Underscore the word almost.
At the hearing, Lofgren's legislative effort was backed by the leading professional engineering group, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers Inc. (IEEE-USA); the Semiconductor Industry Association; and an academic group, the Association of International Educators.
What Lofgren didn't have was the support of everyone on her Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship and Refugees, Border Security and International Law.
"I think we should give the high-tech industry the innovators they need," said fellow committee member Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.). But what do lawmakers tell foreign workers who labor on farms and apply pesticides -- that "you're not really smart?"
Gutierrez called farm workers "just as critical and relevant to the innovation of that industry" as tech workers are to IT innovation. And he urged the committee to take a "holistic approach" to immigration so that the most vulnerable "are not stigmatized by actions of the Congress."
Gutierrez' argument encapsulated why efforts to raise the caps on H-1B visas and green cards face a difficult time in Congress. Last year's failed attempt at immigration reform has turned the issue into an all-or-nothing fight for many lawmakers, which has so far stymied efforts by tech groups to win support for expanding the H-1B cap. The outlook for Lofgren's effort is uncertain at best.
She recently introduced three bills intended to make it easier for U.S. firms to hire graduates of U.S. universities who earn a degree in science, technology, engineering or mathematics. One bill, HR 6039, would exclude these graduates from the annual 140,000 limit on skills-based employment visas. A companion bill was introduced earlier this month in the Senate by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Judd Gregg (R-N.H.).
In response to Gutierrez' argument, Edward Sweeney, who chairs the Semiconductor Industry Association's Semiconductor Workforce Strategy Committee and is vice president of worldwide human resources at National Semiconductor Corp., said his industry is dealing right now with the loss of "job creating talent."
Every day, said Sweeney, foreign graduates are returning home, where they create jobs "to compete against us." Gutierrez countered by describing the threat of deportation or the risk of jail facing an undocumented worker in a meatpacking plant.
Stating the case for the IEEE was Lee Colby, an electrical engineer and 36-year employee of Hewlett-Packard Co. who now runs his own circuit design consulting company. "At this point, it's difficult to get enough engineers in the United States to staff our research and development labs," said Colby, calling that situation "somewhat pitiful."
He continued: "We definitely need talent from overseas to correct this situation."
The only person on the panel called to testify in opposition was Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, who argued that highly skilled workers are not really that highly skilled.
"Contrary to the claims of the lobbyists, these workers aren't necessarily the best and brightest," said Krikorian, citing a study by Norman Matloff, a computer science professor at the University of California at Davis.
But Sweeney said the semiconductor industry applies for up to 4,000 green card workers a year and he said those workers, many with masters degrees and above, "are crucial" to product research. "They are making north of $100,000 a year," he said.
June 12, 2008 (Computerworld) WASHINGTON -- When U.S. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) led a U.S. House hearing today on bills that would make it easier for highly educated foreign tech workers to stay in the U.S., she had almost everything she needed to make her case. Underscore the word almost.
At the hearing, Lofgren's legislative effort was backed by the leading professional engineering group, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers Inc. (IEEE-USA); the Semiconductor Industry Association; and an academic group, the Association of International Educators.
What Lofgren didn't have was the support of everyone on her Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship and Refugees, Border Security and International Law.
"I think we should give the high-tech industry the innovators they need," said fellow committee member Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.). But what do lawmakers tell foreign workers who labor on farms and apply pesticides -- that "you're not really smart?"
Gutierrez called farm workers "just as critical and relevant to the innovation of that industry" as tech workers are to IT innovation. And he urged the committee to take a "holistic approach" to immigration so that the most vulnerable "are not stigmatized by actions of the Congress."
Gutierrez' argument encapsulated why efforts to raise the caps on H-1B visas and green cards face a difficult time in Congress. Last year's failed attempt at immigration reform has turned the issue into an all-or-nothing fight for many lawmakers, which has so far stymied efforts by tech groups to win support for expanding the H-1B cap. The outlook for Lofgren's effort is uncertain at best.
She recently introduced three bills intended to make it easier for U.S. firms to hire graduates of U.S. universities who earn a degree in science, technology, engineering or mathematics. One bill, HR 6039, would exclude these graduates from the annual 140,000 limit on skills-based employment visas. A companion bill was introduced earlier this month in the Senate by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Judd Gregg (R-N.H.).
In response to Gutierrez' argument, Edward Sweeney, who chairs the Semiconductor Industry Association's Semiconductor Workforce Strategy Committee and is vice president of worldwide human resources at National Semiconductor Corp., said his industry is dealing right now with the loss of "job creating talent."
Every day, said Sweeney, foreign graduates are returning home, where they create jobs "to compete against us." Gutierrez countered by describing the threat of deportation or the risk of jail facing an undocumented worker in a meatpacking plant.
Stating the case for the IEEE was Lee Colby, an electrical engineer and 36-year employee of Hewlett-Packard Co. who now runs his own circuit design consulting company. "At this point, it's difficult to get enough engineers in the United States to staff our research and development labs," said Colby, calling that situation "somewhat pitiful."
He continued: "We definitely need talent from overseas to correct this situation."
The only person on the panel called to testify in opposition was Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, who argued that highly skilled workers are not really that highly skilled.
"Contrary to the claims of the lobbyists, these workers aren't necessarily the best and brightest," said Krikorian, citing a study by Norman Matloff, a computer science professor at the University of California at Davis.
But Sweeney said the semiconductor industry applies for up to 4,000 green card workers a year and he said those workers, many with masters degrees and above, "are crucial" to product research. "They are making north of $100,000 a year," he said.
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hebron
07-06 03:47 PM
Wishful thinking - Would be nice if the court went against AZ and asked the congress and senate to resolve the issue soon through legislative action. Republicans will be against any sort of amnesty, so not a thing will happen till November, but there may be chances of piecemeal legislations to address legal immigration issues if Republicans get the majority.
I have paid over $10 K in attorney fees so far and Obama wants to legalize the illegals who broke the law by granting them amnesty and asking them to pay a "fine"? If this happened in our home country, wouldn't we all do the same and think the same as the people of Arizona? I'm in favor of AZ taking this initiative .
I have paid over $10 K in attorney fees so far and Obama wants to legalize the illegals who broke the law by granting them amnesty and asking them to pay a "fine"? If this happened in our home country, wouldn't we all do the same and think the same as the people of Arizona? I'm in favor of AZ taking this initiative .
chmur
12-13 11:27 PM
To highlight other point of view and keep the debate balanced... It ain't rosy on the other side(India) either.
There is a severe shortage of highly skilled personnel in India too.
For those talents , salaries have gone through the roof. Add to that rupee has appreciated a whopping 11% this year...significantly compromising cost advantage.
attrition is a problem to get anything significant done . There are many stories of companies moving out of india due to attrition.
and for those outsourcing companies like wipro , infy etc where name of the game is pure staff augumentation/outsourcing ..... immigration issues will hit their business too.
Add to that all the peripheral issues with doing business in India ....poor infrastructure, cultural issues and overhead/risk of managing distributed teams etc ...
Pure outsourcing/staff augumentation business model employed by Indian bell weather IT companies is finally being challenged.
Simply put: There ain,t free lunch, anywhere.
IMO: Purely from career standpoint , getting a greencard and staying put in US, is still the best option by a distance.
There is a severe shortage of highly skilled personnel in India too.
For those talents , salaries have gone through the roof. Add to that rupee has appreciated a whopping 11% this year...significantly compromising cost advantage.
attrition is a problem to get anything significant done . There are many stories of companies moving out of india due to attrition.
and for those outsourcing companies like wipro , infy etc where name of the game is pure staff augumentation/outsourcing ..... immigration issues will hit their business too.
Add to that all the peripheral issues with doing business in India ....poor infrastructure, cultural issues and overhead/risk of managing distributed teams etc ...
Pure outsourcing/staff augumentation business model employed by Indian bell weather IT companies is finally being challenged.
Simply put: There ain,t free lunch, anywhere.
IMO: Purely from career standpoint , getting a greencard and staying put in US, is still the best option by a distance.
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pkak
11-21 11:15 AM
If buying a house had been the smart option, I would have bought it already.
Please see the attached XLS.
BTW, independent analysts predict that housing prices will fall by 20% in real terms in next 10 years.
All I am stating is that this issue can be a good talking point for the Immigration Lobby, especially as the housing market continues its slide down:)
Since I could not upload the attachment, pasting the summary sheet.
Note: I am still assuming that price of house will slightly appreciate for this calculation.
ITEMS Amount
House Information
Buy Price of the house $300,000
Property Tax (Yearly) 7000
Additional utility and other costs 200
Loan Information
Down Payment 5%
Mortgage cost (one time) 5500
Rate 6.20%
Fixed Term (In years) 30
Monthly Mortgage Payment $1,745.54
House Insurance Premiums
Home Owners insurance (Monthly) 100
PMI (Monthly) 185
TOTAL MONTHLY PAYMENT $2,814.12
Assumptions
Tax rate 30%
Standard Deduction $10,500
Annual Property Appreciation/Depreciation rate 4.0%
Value addition expected cost $0.00
Value addition expected Benefit $0.00
Number of months expected to stay 60
House value at the end of stay period $366,299
Sale of property transaction
Selling Realtor Commission 6%
Selling Cost $21,978
Real estate transfer Cost $1,500
Net gain/loss on the property $37,321
Down Payment opportunity cost
Cash rate 4.0%
Amount lost $3,315
Current Rental Info
Current Rent $1,000.00
Total rent over the period of stay $60,000.00
Cash outflow net of principal and after tax benefits $104,189
Standard Deduction Adjustment $15,750
Results (Gain/Loss) $(25,933.34)
Please see the attached XLS.
BTW, independent analysts predict that housing prices will fall by 20% in real terms in next 10 years.
All I am stating is that this issue can be a good talking point for the Immigration Lobby, especially as the housing market continues its slide down:)
Since I could not upload the attachment, pasting the summary sheet.
Note: I am still assuming that price of house will slightly appreciate for this calculation.
ITEMS Amount
House Information
Buy Price of the house $300,000
Property Tax (Yearly) 7000
Additional utility and other costs 200
Loan Information
Down Payment 5%
Mortgage cost (one time) 5500
Rate 6.20%
Fixed Term (In years) 30
Monthly Mortgage Payment $1,745.54
House Insurance Premiums
Home Owners insurance (Monthly) 100
PMI (Monthly) 185
TOTAL MONTHLY PAYMENT $2,814.12
Assumptions
Tax rate 30%
Standard Deduction $10,500
Annual Property Appreciation/Depreciation rate 4.0%
Value addition expected cost $0.00
Value addition expected Benefit $0.00
Number of months expected to stay 60
House value at the end of stay period $366,299
Sale of property transaction
Selling Realtor Commission 6%
Selling Cost $21,978
Real estate transfer Cost $1,500
Net gain/loss on the property $37,321
Down Payment opportunity cost
Cash rate 4.0%
Amount lost $3,315
Current Rental Info
Current Rent $1,000.00
Total rent over the period of stay $60,000.00
Cash outflow net of principal and after tax benefits $104,189
Standard Deduction Adjustment $15,750
Results (Gain/Loss) $(25,933.34)
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jgh_res
08-11 09:14 AM
U have such a big signature but nothing abt contribution to IV. Have u contributed anything to IV? If not, how do u thinkIV can fight for whatever it is fighting?
I had a friend who came here after me, say I think in 2001, he got laid off and had gaps in his employment, he married this girl who joined a company head quartered in IOWA, the payroll stubs used to be in excel sheets. He was probably in the point where if we went to India, they would not have let him come back on H1. They paid 10K to get LS (adjusted through employment for 1 year) and when I-140 and 485 were being allowed for consecutive filing I believe Dec2004, filed it. He called me a month back saying they got their physical card. His PD date somewhere 2004 EB3. My PD March 21 2003, am I frustrated of course, but I am frustrated with the system that has loop holes, as pointed out there are hundred of people who have legitimately used LS.. there is no point losing sleep over it.
The need of the hour is this, to be together and fight together, not among each other. IV does not differentiate between LS and non LS, or degrees or anyone's individual cases or scenarios. IV's goal is very simple, GC process should not take more that 2 years and anything that reduces the total time frame, that is what IV stands for. Time is key, lost time cannot be regained, what is in for is now and the future, lets stick together and think about how we can help IV meet this goal, that none of us should be waiting many many more years to come. Can we all agree on this and go forward please?
Thanks and appreciate everyone's understanding.
I had a friend who came here after me, say I think in 2001, he got laid off and had gaps in his employment, he married this girl who joined a company head quartered in IOWA, the payroll stubs used to be in excel sheets. He was probably in the point where if we went to India, they would not have let him come back on H1. They paid 10K to get LS (adjusted through employment for 1 year) and when I-140 and 485 were being allowed for consecutive filing I believe Dec2004, filed it. He called me a month back saying they got their physical card. His PD date somewhere 2004 EB3. My PD March 21 2003, am I frustrated of course, but I am frustrated with the system that has loop holes, as pointed out there are hundred of people who have legitimately used LS.. there is no point losing sleep over it.
The need of the hour is this, to be together and fight together, not among each other. IV does not differentiate between LS and non LS, or degrees or anyone's individual cases or scenarios. IV's goal is very simple, GC process should not take more that 2 years and anything that reduces the total time frame, that is what IV stands for. Time is key, lost time cannot be regained, what is in for is now and the future, lets stick together and think about how we can help IV meet this goal, that none of us should be waiting many many more years to come. Can we all agree on this and go forward please?
Thanks and appreciate everyone's understanding.
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10-19 02:57 PM
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abracadabra102
08-10 12:24 PM
Perm filers hate LS guys as they went ahead of line...
Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
good one
Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
good one
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vbkris77
11-30 05:10 PM
Thanks for the good work. However, I saw a major potential flaw in estimating the applications from ROW. The report finds the life cycle for a ROWer to submit 485 is 1 year, thus assuming little AOS applications will be filed in the coming year from ROW. But this analysis forgot to consider those ROWers who started GC in year 2008. A person who started working in 11/2008 is ready to submit 485 now and uses one quota, even if a person who just started working won't be able to submit AOS till a year from now. With this under consideration, I feel the spillover will be much less than initially estimated.
Please correct me if I missed anything.
Good observation, but the economy wasn't good in 2008 either and most of the time both PERM centers were closed for business. Chicago was closed in mid year and Atlanta wasn't working from late 2007 till early 2009.
So the number of PERM approvals would be very low. Assuming CIS cleared most of the I140 backlog as they indicated, their I485 numbers should include the recent ROW approvals as they become real backlog applications (backlogged by CIS processing not by visa numbers)
I am still waiting for the 2009 DOL and State report to validate this information.
Please correct me if I missed anything.
Good observation, but the economy wasn't good in 2008 either and most of the time both PERM centers were closed for business. Chicago was closed in mid year and Atlanta wasn't working from late 2007 till early 2009.
So the number of PERM approvals would be very low. Assuming CIS cleared most of the I140 backlog as they indicated, their I485 numbers should include the recent ROW approvals as they become real backlog applications (backlogged by CIS processing not by visa numbers)
I am still waiting for the 2009 DOL and State report to validate this information.
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whattodo
07-27 02:57 PM
This is paranoa!!!!!!!! STOP already
More than paranoia, I will call this stupidity. I dont understand what are people trying to do. People with misuse, clog the already clogged system and then complain later on.
More than paranoia, I will call this stupidity. I dont understand what are people trying to do. People with misuse, clog the already clogged system and then complain later on.
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jsb
08-15 02:22 PM
Some peoples think that they are the smartest world has ever Produced.
When you go for Fedex/USPS Express they takes your Name, Current Address in a page which has Pointer to the TRACKING NO. 1 copy comes to you , 1 copy goes out with Package and 1 Copy gets saved with FEDEX/USPS.
The 3rd copy above is sufficient to straightout any "Potential Liars" :mad:
Fedex Receipt shows Sender And Addressee, name, address etc. It does not tell whose application (and what else) is inside. In reality, having Fedex receipt only proves that some package has been been delivered at USCIS, but what is inside, there is no guarantee or proof.
When you go for Fedex/USPS Express they takes your Name, Current Address in a page which has Pointer to the TRACKING NO. 1 copy comes to you , 1 copy goes out with Package and 1 Copy gets saved with FEDEX/USPS.
The 3rd copy above is sufficient to straightout any "Potential Liars" :mad:
Fedex Receipt shows Sender And Addressee, name, address etc. It does not tell whose application (and what else) is inside. In reality, having Fedex receipt only proves that some package has been been delivered at USCIS, but what is inside, there is no guarantee or proof.
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smsthss
06-12 11:10 AM
Is there a link online for that???
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kaizersoze
03-21 02:11 PM
Folks,
Per lawmaker we recently met(WA state), it is imperative that we also get our message across to lawmakers in the midwest and south.
Due to resident strength and businesses employing H1B people(who end up getting stuck in retrogression) in the west and east coasts and large metropolitan cities, the lawmakers in these areas are slightly more aware of our issues. They also get funding from local companies that employ people stuck in retrogression.
However, representatives in the MIdwest and South do not get a lot of funding from local businesses that employ H1Bs and have other local issue that they would rather pursue(agriculture, etc.).
It is imperative that awareness is spread in the midwest and south !!
Per lawmaker we recently met(WA state), it is imperative that we also get our message across to lawmakers in the midwest and south.
Due to resident strength and businesses employing H1B people(who end up getting stuck in retrogression) in the west and east coasts and large metropolitan cities, the lawmakers in these areas are slightly more aware of our issues. They also get funding from local companies that employ people stuck in retrogression.
However, representatives in the MIdwest and South do not get a lot of funding from local businesses that employ H1Bs and have other local issue that they would rather pursue(agriculture, etc.).
It is imperative that awareness is spread in the midwest and south !!
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Dhundhun
12-29 02:37 PM
Please modify title.
Also, it will be quite useful to set a counter, how many people started using AC21.
Also, it will be quite useful to set a counter, how many people started using AC21.
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nozerd
01-04 10:45 AM
In India religious minorities have the rights to their own personal laws. I believe the Muslim personal law allows Muslims in India to have more than 1 wife.
I think you mean UTAH.
Is it legal to have more than one wife in India?
I think you mean UTAH.
Is it legal to have more than one wife in India?
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abhidos37
08-23 03:46 PM
Plassey and all,
I just opened a session in IV asking for experience and knowhow which seems to have turned into a heated congress session.
Plassey, regarding your thoughts and comments let me tell you something "GC is not the best thing in the world, for which one has to be so depressed and cry in bathroom". If you have talent and belief you can survive in any condition. I am not a preacher nor a saint, but nobody can stand such insolent reply from you. Good luck to you for the rest of day.
I just opened a session in IV asking for experience and knowhow which seems to have turned into a heated congress session.
Plassey, regarding your thoughts and comments let me tell you something "GC is not the best thing in the world, for which one has to be so depressed and cry in bathroom". If you have talent and belief you can survive in any condition. I am not a preacher nor a saint, but nobody can stand such insolent reply from you. Good luck to you for the rest of day.
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suresh.emails
10-21 02:50 PM
Despite of my request on RED dots and interpretation issues,
Some one gave me a RED dot for this posting. It is as follows
1. Interpretation issues... 10-21-2008 03:40 PM What is "con traversal" dear ? ))
Guys, we need keep away these kind of people from IV participation. There should be some restrictions (rules and regulation). These are the people who don't know what they are doing. GOD only can save them.
We are here for to work and live and represent as a forum to fight against a broken system. Looks like we have issues among us.
We either take away GREEN/RED dot concepts from bothering others or do some thing else (display who has given RED/GREEN dots).
Core member do some thing.
Some one gave me a RED dot for this posting. It is as follows
1. Interpretation issues... 10-21-2008 03:40 PM What is "con traversal" dear ? ))
Guys, we need keep away these kind of people from IV participation. There should be some restrictions (rules and regulation). These are the people who don't know what they are doing. GOD only can save them.
We are here for to work and live and represent as a forum to fight against a broken system. Looks like we have issues among us.
We either take away GREEN/RED dot concepts from bothering others or do some thing else (display who has given RED/GREEN dots).
Core member do some thing.
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waitingnwaiting
11-10 07:58 AM
When is the December visa bulletin coming? Can someone ask their lawyer?
Why is nobody predicting? Are we all becoming so pessimistic?
Why is nobody predicting? Are we all becoming so pessimistic?
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Munna Bhai
04-13 08:36 AM
May visa bulletin will be here today(most prob.)..they r doing the 'cut and paste" of last bulletin right now..:D
any comments on new bulletin?
Today is friday and 13th, anything can happen. Let's wait for miracle...
any comments on new bulletin?
Today is friday and 13th, anything can happen. Let's wait for miracle...
mirage
12-07 02:07 PM
I got my PF money back from Lucknow without a penny paid in bribe or anything.
aadimanav
08-22 02:06 PM
No surprises for me at least. There will be only 816 new EB3 visas available for any country in October. This will move the dates at the most by a month or two and this will continue for ever until a new legislation is passed, that is why DC rally is all the more important and everyone should focus on that to bring in a change.
For folks wondering how I came to the 816 visa number
Total GC available = 140000
7% country limit = 9800
split for EB3 = 3266
spread for each qtr = 816
Good Luck to all and don't have high expectations because you will be disappointed when the bulletin comes out.
and 816 are not primary applicants.... there are spouse and kid(s)...
For folks wondering how I came to the 816 visa number
Total GC available = 140000
7% country limit = 9800
split for EB3 = 3266
spread for each qtr = 816
Good Luck to all and don't have high expectations because you will be disappointed when the bulletin comes out.
and 816 are not primary applicants.... there are spouse and kid(s)...